My guide on recording/editing pc games

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boricuaretrogamer
Hi mihaibest! I follow all the instructions using Dxtory and VirtualDub and actually worked! Thanks man for sharing that with us!
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Most old games do change resolution while running. for these games use Fraps, where you can record the entire computer screen.
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MadMatty
What are you trying to record? If its OpenGL or DirectDraw, it may not be picked up by dxtory to record. Also, if your game changes resolution (between title screen, menus and in game) you may find the recording is automatically stopped.
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What about my issue that Dxtory doesn't record? :(
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mihaibest wrote:
Actually, test1 was 1080p scaled to 720p, I was even surprised it looked a little bit better.

You shouldn't be surprised as it's obvious it would look "better" because the native res was higher before resized down. Same if you would play something in 640x480, you can see pixels as it's the res the game is set to, but if you resize it down, it will render and add loads of anti-aliasing and smooth it out (unless you set the encoder to 'nearest neighbor' thingy so it doesn't add extra stuff). This is what I thought, I said it looked weird that 1 would be better than 2 if 1 was the 720 to 720, so yeah, 1 was 1280, which is what it seemed.

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So, in conclusion, it is better to record at the same resolution to avoid any problems, but its not like scaling is such a horrible feature and the video is shit or whatever, and dxtory does as much as possible in this direction.

Yes, scaling is terrible, it's just that you can't tell with this game or example without lossless footage. The examples I made first in this thread was about things that uses 1x1 pixels, like text, those will be ruined as there will not be enough pixels to show them properly if the source is 1280 and then resized to 720. But if you do a 1280 to 720 with a game that has thick stuff everywhere, it's harder to notice.

So, recording in the same res you play is very important, or it will not look right (way worse in some games with lots of 1x1), also ads anti-aliasing to smooth it out which removes all the nice original pixels.
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Ironclaw wrote:

Hard to tell without lossless and both versions from the same places.

But from what I could see, "fileshare.ro_test1" looked a bit better. It had less visible pixels, like it had some renderer on, while the other one had jagged stuff, which is weird if the first one was 720 and recorded as 720.

Like I said, need lossless to see properly, too much artifacs and stuff going on.

But doesn't matter, it's still better to play in the size you record, as it shows the game in the right res. This game had thick fonts and stuff, so not a good example to show missing details when turning 1280 to 720.


Actually, test1 was 1080p scaled to 720p, I was even surprised it looked a little bit better. Graphics settings were the same besides resolution, like the same anti-allising settings etc. The source files were also pretty close, not much difference, but i uploaded the encoded videos since those are what matters and whats uploaded to the site.
So, in conclusion, it is better to record at the same resolution to avoid any problems, but its not like scaling is such a horrible feature and the video is shit or whatever, and dxtory does as much as possible in this direction.
Ironclaw
Hard to tell without lossless and both versions from the same places.

But from what I could see, "fileshare.ro_test1" looked a bit better. It had less visible pixels, like it had some renderer on, while the other one had jagged stuff, which is weird if the first one was 720 and recorded as 720.

Like I said, need lossless to see properly, too much artifacs and stuff going on.

But doesn't matter, it's still better to play in the size you record, as it shows the game in the right res. This game had thick fonts and stuff, so not a good example to show missing details when turning 1280 to 720.
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Links work fine, anyway here is another upload.

http://www.fileshare.ro/e30275344
http://www.fileshare.ro/e30275352
Ironclaw
Reup the videos, I wanna see :)

But to a place that lasts for more than a couple of hours, or whatever (or maybe you removed them yourself once the other guy saw them?).
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Some people checked this thread and they have no intention of uploading for this site, maybe just want to upload to their youtube channel or something. I modified the main post and said that if you want to upload to longplays.org, dont use scaling.

Shouldn't matter if they record videos for other places, because why would people want bad quality/broken pixels/missing details in anything on purpose?
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mihaibest wrote:

Ok here is a test. In one video i play at 720p and record at the same res, in the other one i play at 1080p and record at 720p with dxtory.

http://www.datafilehost.com/d/d3116513
http://www.datafilehost.com/d/b9298c4a


2nd file is bigger with a higher bitrate but I feel like its pointless since the first file is smaller and looks more efficient. At the end of the day you're going to end up with the same resolution anyway mind as well keep it the same lol.

I appreciate you having the audio small for a faster download btw.
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Ok here is a test. In one video i play at 720p and record at the same res, in the other one i play at 1080p and record at 720p with dxtory.

http://www.datafilehost.com/d/d3116513
http://www.datafilehost.com/d/b9298c4a
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Jihao wrote:

I agree with Ironclaw, Res can be very tricky if you aren't completely honest with the source capture.

There is no reason to capture in 1920x1080 anyway, unless its for aesthetic purposes. I hear that fraps lags your computer and affects your frame rates, so how is Dxtory for other people so far? I wanted to try using it for a LP maybe.

I use dxtory for pretty much all my capturing that is not Amiga games related, it works perfectly (for me anyway). It doesn't lag my computer or affect the frame rate for me, you just need proper settings and a fast enough computer.

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@Ironclaw : Yes I know that, i dont do it actually, i just mentioned this as a feature of the program.

No, you didn't just mention it as just a feature of the program, as you wrote it as "My guide on recording/editing pc games", thus people will read and do what you explain, which is why you created this thread, to help people record and edit games. You said it's one of the best features of the program, it's in fact the worst, imo.

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But tbh, there is no real difference, especially after encoding, the quality drops anyway.

Wow, just wow that you believe that. The difference can be HUGE. I could create a lot of examples for you and others to have a look at to see how big the difference could be, but I shouldn't really have to as it's pretty self explanatory (guess not) how broken the graphics/details/pixels would be if one played in a certain res and recorded in another. The result after encoding doesn't make it nearly as bad as recording it wrongly does.


I named this guide "My Guide" and not "Official Guide for longplays.org", i am no expert at this, the purpose was more to present an option for recording, and if some people test and come up with better settings they can post it here and I check them out. Some people checked this thread and they have no intention of uploading for this site, maybe just want to upload to their youtube channel or something. I modified the main post and said that if you want to upload to longplays.org, dont use scaling.
Ironclaw

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Jihao wrote:

I'll go try out Dxtory and do some tests.

Do that, it's way better than Fraps in so many ways.

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Jihao wrote:
-scaling: this is one of the best features of dxtory...

Can be compared to me doing a tutorial on how to encode and say "the quality setting is the best feature because you can get really small file sizes if you use low quality".
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Jihao
I'm pretty sure downscaling and then encoding it again messes with the video.

You're better off just leaving the setting on 100 and then changing the resolution on the final encode...

I'll go try out Dxtory and do some tests.
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Jihao wrote:

I agree with Ironclaw, Res can be very tricky if you aren't completely honest with the source capture.

There is no reason to capture in 1920x1080 anyway, unless its for aesthetic purposes. I hear that fraps lags your computer and affects your frame rates, so how is Dxtory for other people so far? I wanted to try using it for a LP maybe.

I use dxtory for pretty much all my capturing that is not Amiga games related, it works perfectly (for me anyway). It doesn't lag my computer or affect the frame rate for me, you just need proper settings and a fast enough computer.

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@Ironclaw : Yes I know that, i dont do it actually, i just mentioned this as a feature of the program.

No, you didn't just mention it as just a feature of the program, as you wrote it as "My guide on recording/editing pc games", thus people will read and do what you explain, which is why you created this thread, to help people record and edit games. You said it's one of the best features of the program, it's in fact the worst, imo.

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mihaibest wrote:

But tbh, there is no real difference, especially after encoding, the quality drops anyway.

Wow, just wow that you believe that. The difference can be HUGE. I could create a lot of examples for you and others to have a look at to see how big the difference could be, but I shouldn't really have to as it's pretty self explanatory (guess not) how broken the graphics/details/pixels would be if one played in a certain res and recorded in another. The result after encoding doesn't make it nearly as bad as recording it wrongly does.
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@Ironclaw : Yes I know that, i dont do it actually, i just mentioned this as a feature of the program. But tbh, there is no real difference, especially after encoding, the quality drops anyway.
Jihao

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Ironclaw wrote:

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mihaibest wrote:

-scaling: this is one of the best features of dxtory, and fraps doesn't have this feature. here you can select at what resolution you want to record. recommended for the site: 1280x720. for example you can play games at 1920x1080 and just record at 1280x720

Don't do this, OMG, doooon't! :@

It ruins the pixels and doesn't show the game in the true resolution it was played in. Like, if you play a game in 1920x1080 and record in 1280x720, then the 1x1 thick text (and loads of other detail) that the game might have won't show properly in 1280x720 as it doesn't have enough pixels to display all the details.

[color=#990000]Play in the resolution you want to record in.[/color]

The OP's post has been here since 30-06-2013 and yet no one has mentioned this HUGE problem for some reason, so I felt I just had to.


I agree with Ironclaw, Res can be very tricky if you aren't completely honest with the source capture.

There is no reason to capture in 1920x1080 anyway, unless its for aesthetic purposes. I hear that fraps lags your computer and affects your frame rates, so how is Dxtory for other people so far? I wanted to try using it for a LP maybe.
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Ironclaw

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mihaibest wrote:

-scaling: this is one of the best features of dxtory, and fraps doesn't have this feature. here you can select at what resolution you want to record. recommended for the site: 1280x720. for example you can play games at 1920x1080 and just record at 1280x720

Don't do this, OMG, doooon't! :@

It ruins the pixels and doesn't show the game in the true resolution it was played in. Like, if you play a game in 1920x1080 and record in 1280x720, then the 1x1 thick text (and loads of other detail) that the game might have won't show properly in 1280x720 as it doesn't have enough pixels to display all the details.

[color=#990000]Play in the resolution you want to record in.[/color]

The OP's post has been here since 30-06-2013 and yet no one has mentioned this HUGE problem for some reason, so I felt I just had to.
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Ivan187 wrote:

I've followed all your instructions, but I don't know how to make Dxtory start recording. I tried pressing the HotKey but it just doesn't record. :|


I have no idea, maybe try a different key?

Nope, that doesn't do it.
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